Comments on Immunization Without Vaccination

With deepest gratitude and tears flowing I thank you for this referral - I have called and left a message for Dr. Dym and await his response. I pray I have not permanently damaged my preciousToby - why, oh why, did I not do the right thing? I will never, ever, again get a pet vaccinated.

If a16 week-old pup is taken to a low-traffic private dog park (where most likely all the dogs have been vaccinated), once every 3 weeks (total: 3 exposures) for a duration of 5 minutes per exposure, will the immunity "take"?
The study does not address Adenovirus (part of the DAPP puppy vaccine) does this virus respond to this same "natural" protocol?
I understand that annual vaccine boosting is harmful, but in the case of the DAPP puppy vaccine, if the initial puppy vaccination was given at 9 weeks by the breeder, (and the mother's antibodies blocked most of the efficacy of that shot), is the risk of vaccine illness reduced if the pup receives a final DAPP shot at 16 weeks?

Question! I moved to the four corners area and today I found out that dogs from the reservation are getting sick from distemper and many are being euthanized, why are these dogs not having a natural immunity? The other thing is that there were dogs transferred to the local shelter that may have distemper and if they do, they are going to euthanize all the dogs! Why would that be needed? Thank you!

Dear Dr Falconer,
As a microbiologist from South Africa, I am quite alarmed by the views I see often in USA about rabies, for exampe that one must be bitten by a rabid animal to contract rabies. It is not true! The most common human deaths from rabies occur in S.A. where cows have been bitten by rabid dogs, and the herdsman sticks an arm down the cow's throat to remove whatever seems stuck there to cause the cow to salivate. The unbitten arm, covered in rabid cow saliva, seems innocent enough, is washed, and later the person dies.
The virus can get into the body through the skin with just the tiniest of microscopic damage to the skin. NO bite needed.
Also untrue, is the need to die after being exposed as is reported this century still, in PubMed. A series of four one-a-day injections after exposure and *before* symptoms start, is all that is needed. It must be done, but is not a big deal as long as the person KNOWS they were possibly exposed to rabid saliva (not a bite) and they then act to get the shots. Correct knowledge is power here.
I hope this helps your anti-vaccine campaign with which I fully agree. By the way, nautral immunity as you advocate, increases beneficial Th-1 cytokine actiuvity where vaccines do the opposite and damage the thymus, decreasing Th-1 cytokine activity and its ability to defend the system.
Namaste,
Irene

At what age would you take the pups to the dog park? Between 8-12 weeks? After 12 weeks?

Hi Will,
This is a really informative article. We don't have Rabies here in Northern Ireland but have had Parvo and Distemper in years gone by. All our pack of 13 Siberian Huskies have been vaccinated in the past against all the Canine Diseases, I was only giving them Boosters every 2 or 3 years but am leaning more towards not doing this anymore as we don't show our dogs, we do compete in Sled Dog Races in the cooler weather. I just don't understand why we Humans are vaccinated as youngsters and then never again and yet we're supposed to administer Boosters to our Canines/Felines every year...

I just learned that raccoons that live in the Walnut Creek Park area in Northwest Austin are dying from distemper. I don't know how many have died, but there was one that came out of the woods to the middle of the street recently and the city was called. It was confirmed to have distemper. This is a park that I take my dogs to daily and have for the past 17 years. The two dogs I have now, went to the park when they were very young puppies. One dog was only about 4 or 5 weeks old when he was taken on his first walk in the woods. The other dog was about 7 or 8 weeks old. I have only given them a rabies vaccination. I feel that because they were out in the park where there are all kinds of wildlife, they are protected. I hope this assumption is correct. Thanks for the article!

Prevention is an ancient method through the old fashion Neighborhood Chicken-pox, and measles Parties, where infected family announced their children had childhood disease - inviting the neighboring parents to bring their children to the party.
Practically everyone in neighborhood - young to elderly constantly in contact with these infections. Now some parents getting Chicken-pox, measles from recently vaccinated children - therefore a few colleagues having unvaxed children bringing them to work for exposure........
However - misconception is that the children don't "take" because they didn't become ill. And not sure how immune effective a vaccination virus is compared to raw natural virus.
Also older adults getting shingles - premises - they are not in contact with little children now days - shingles may lie dormant for years.
An web search for Chicken-pox parties - lots of sites - even a Facebook page -- Let's have a Chickenpox Party | Facebook

Does this work for rabies, too?
And if so, is it possible to submit a titer level as proof of immunization to the City for complying with ordinances?
Thanks for all your info; someone on my facebook page was in anxiety about this very topic you wrote about. :)

Wow, I love this. Makes so much sense to me. Getting the general population to buy this, arrrggggg! Challenging considering most people go to their Vet and never ask any questions, they just do what the Vet says. Apparently, White Coats are Godly! Well, keep on Doc, we'll all keep spreading the word of Vital Health. Thanks for the article!

It's the same concept as overuse of antibacterial cleaners creating super bugs. We need exposure to different things to build up the immunity! Our younger generation is trying to protect from everything instead of allowing immunities to build up.

I know every time I add a comment here I always include common sense and this one is no different.
I was born in beautiful Venezuela which is located in South America. I vividly remember all the babies in the family crawling in the "not so cleaned bleached floors", I know some of you must aaaghh at this thought but as my grandmother "lela" always said "don't worry they are creating more defenses like that than you can ever imagine". Up to this day I have to say, we are a very healthy family and country for that matter our only downfall ..the politicians !

But antibodies are only created when a body has had a disease and unable to prevent it taking hold. If they had no symptoms, then I can't see how they developed antibodies. The creation of antibodies, in my understanding, comes when the body has FAILED to allow the pathogen entry and this is a last ditch mechanism.

Fascinating info. The small doses make so much sense. Thank you for sharing your learning.

This is fascinating. But I do have a question. The part I don't understand is how do the puppies come into contact with live virus without contracting the disease?
I thought even one exposure with no antibodies would result in disease. Like chickenpox as a kid.