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Debbie

No more vaccines period. Have had four dogs-three of them had vaccine reactions . One had vaccine reactions to rabies as a puppy then as a one year old she went into anaphylactic shock. Lived after treatment of steroids., but had allergies the rest of her life.
Going to get a puppy-using nosodes instead of vaccines.

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Wanda Thomas

My blind diabetic, but otherwise healthy dog just had an allergic reaction from a rabies shot. He was treated as if it were kennel cough or allergies. Thank heavens our holistic vet (who now lives on the other side of the country) shed light on the issue.
I live in Missouri and have already contacted my state representative to start the process of medical exemptions. We can't even get rid of puppy mills in Missouri so I know it will be an uphill battle, but your site has given me hope. Thank you.

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Groomer

Dr. Falconer (and anyone reading this comment)

I am a groomer in Texas, recently invested in a system called Thera-Clean, it is a microbubble system for baths.

I recently learned that the veterinarian of their company suggests people wait 7 days before getting a Thera Clean bath after receiving shots, this is due to the findings that the microbubbles removed some or most of the vaccines. If true, my suggestion if a vet gives your dog a vaccine against your will, get that dog a Thera Clean (has to be Thera-Clean) bath ASAP! If my dog ever receives another, he is getting multiple Thera Clean baths as soon as we leave that office! The beauty here is it cannot hurt, because it is just bubbles and water, and it is the most gentle relaxing bath available for dogs with many other benefits!

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B. VDLOO

Thanks for all you do and the great info and awareness on your site, Dr. Falconer.
I had a Westie for 13 yrs that was damaged by his rabies/puppy vaxx. The many vets and specialists I saw either claimed it was something to do with his diet or didn’t know but were willing to prescribe steroids to mask the problem. I needed answers and kept looking. I “discovered” Dr.Pitcairn’s research about vaccine damage and also some books/articles that were starting to be written about the raw diet. I must say, the raw diet helped a LOT but not totally. My puppy would be biting, scratching, losing hair, inflamed skin, bad tummy, etc. I lived in the Netherlands during these years and someone suggested a homeopathic veterinarian. You may as well have said to take him to a witch doctor for all I knew, but desperation does something inside and I went. One consultation, one remedy from this excellent classical homeopathic vet and the itching stopped! Health started flooding in. His digestive system remained compromised all his life but he thrived.
During this time I never allowed another vaccine to be given but had titer tests done instead (and I traveled with this dog all throughout Europe and several times to./from USA).
At one point the titer measurement was lower than the legal level so I asked my vet to try an experiment that I’d only read about: allow my dog to “sniff” the rabies vaccine instead of injecting it. We measured his titer again 10 days later and it had been boosted well above the legal level!
That was several years ago... fast forward to present.
I have a Scottie (5 yrs, spayed female, never vaxxed) and a Westie (3yrs, neutered male, puppy vax from puppy mill). We live in a large city in the USA now.
A few months ago I ordered a rabies vaccine and did the sniff test with my dogs. My intention was to titer test them shortly afterwards but life got ahold of the calendar in other ways.
One month ago my dogs encountered raccoons and were bitten. I flushed their wounds immediately, put on an antiseptic, and gave them Ledum. Police came and they called animal control... I thought they’d go get those pesky raccoons. They took our dogs! No current rabies certification... it got worse. They were sentenced to FOUR MONTHS of strict quarantine (that or euthanasia). They were immediately revaxxed with DA2PP and rabies. We’ve been trying to get them out ever since. Yesterday they were RE-VAXXED with rabies! We are beside ourselves... still trying to get them out of jail and wondering how to help our furry friends.
We have limited access, can bring them their raw food, and even handle them briefly. I will be observing them today to see what effects a 2nd vaxx has had on them, though I know it could pop up anytime in the next weeks. I know my dogs have a strong immune system but this is an all-out assault on their systems. And I begged for a titer test instead, to which the one in control said “titer tests on dogs suspected to be bitten by rabid animals are not accurate”.
And this is where I need your help, Dr. Falconer... I need scientific, AVMA, RCF, and other recognized sources to prove that this statement is inaccurate... I need this for an appeals process we are beginning. So, if you, or others can help - please do! Soon!

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Valerie

I am so frustrated with all of this! I just lost my two 10 y.o. Boston Terrier girls within two months of each other. One had aggressive mast cell tumors, the other started having seizures out of the blue and was in the end suspected of having a brain tumor.
They had the full puppy series, and then I never vaccinated them again for parvo or distemper. Both of my girls had reactions to vaccines that the vets said were not reactions, basically because their faces didn’t swell up and they didn’t go into immediate shock—as if that’s that’s the only thing that can be a true reaction.
It didn’t matter that my one dog stood in the same place for about two hours unmoving, looking glazed, breathing hard, not coming when called, not coming to eat. She laid down to rest when I picked her up and laid her next to me. The vet said that was normal! As long as she was breathing and that she returned to mostly normal after 24 hours.
We were caught owning dogs by animal control when they were young and got stuck in the rabies vax every 3 years situation. I live in a rural part of Los Angeles county in California and they will go door to door in my area and follow up on people who have not licensed any animals recently.
We also got stuck with the bordatella vaccine a few times when we had to board them. It was impossible to find a place that would accept a waiver instead without a letter from a vet. I told the vet that my dog reacted to the bordatella vaccine, and she said, “Oh yeah, that’s common. Just have Benadryl on hand.”
One boarding place told me my dogs were a danger to other dogs because they had not recently been vaccinated. They said that positive titers meant they were carriers of the diseases and were shedding the viruses, therefore a danger to all the vaccinated dogs staying with them. They were upset at all the “uneducated” people out there listening to fear mongers and not vaccinating their animals. When they said this to me, I actually could not respond because of the sheer stupidity and lack of logic. I just walked away.
After I scheduled my dog for surgery to remove a suspected mast cell tumor, the staff asked me if she was up to date on her shots and if I wanted them to vaccinate her. Me in my head: ??? !!! $#%&, are you kidding me?? Outloud: No, thank you. If she has cancer, her immune system is compromised and a vaccine is probably not the best thing for her since she is not heathy.
My dog when she started having seizures this last summer had not had the rabies vax for 5 years. I “forgot” to take her in for it. The vet (different from the one above) said she needed to have a full dental because she had some infected teeth, and that while it more than likely was not the cause of her seizures, it would probably help with them. Then she said my dog had to be vaccinated for rabies first to protect her staff. I questioned her about it, being that I had brought my dog in for seizures. And if she had a tooth infection isn’t her immune system compromised? She said she would accept a rabies titer, which I did and she charged me an exorbitant amount for. Then called me up a few weeks later after we found out the phenobarbital she prescribed for my dog’s seizures caused her liver damage to tell me a dental was out because of the liver issues, my dog needs to be taken off pheno immediately. I was to expect horrible, bad seizures and needed to prepare myself. Then I never heard from her again. I tried three times after that to talk to her about how to wean my dog off of the pheno, and she never returned my calls. They still send me email reminders for vaccines though. These are the kind of vets in my area.
What was interesting to me though, was that my dog had a rabies titer of 2.7 even though it had been five years since her last shot. Looking back, I see where she clearly had issues over the years from past rabies vaccines and it breaks my heart to think that maybe those vaccines caused the situation that ultimately lead to us euthanizing her. This is especially so because I did not want her to ever have these vaccines. I feel like they were forced on us against our will. It makes me so angry because I feel powerless and like the health of my dogs is out of my hands, like I have no rights when it comes to their health.
Even though California supposedly allows exemptions for the rabies vax, it’s my understanding that it’s extremely hard to get it accepted, especially in LA County. It also seems hard to find a holistic vet, I’ve been trying to find one for the past 10 years. Those closer to me listed on some of the holistic veterinary searches, unfortunately, are fauxlistic vets.
I’m frustrated too because it’s near on impossible to find a puppy from a breeder that naturally rears their dogs. Most puppies, by the time I would get one, will have had at least two or more vaccines and have been wormed almost every week of their young lives. And if you get one from a rescue or animal control, they are multi-vaccinated, microchipped, and neutered by 8 weeks of age. On top of this, LA county has a mandatory spay/neuter, microchip and rabies vax by 4 months of age law for all dogs. How can I protect my dogs and give them the best life possible with this?? The bureaucrats are ruining the health of our animals, and what place do they even have in this?? They aren’t doctors, researchers or specialists. They’ve taken control over my own animal out of my hands, but are unwilling to acknowledge or pay for the repercussions of the things they force me to do. It is maddening.
I have had dogs my entire life. My two girls that just died are the only ones who were microchipped and who were spayed under a year. They are the only dogs I’ve had with seizures and die from cancer. I can’t help but wonder what DNA damage has been done from vaccines that is being passed on and getting worse with each generation.
This situation is beyond frustrating.

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Marianne Sewall

How can we petition,to to get the one size fits all rabies vaccine law changed? How can we petition for titer testing instead of mandatory 3 year vaccines? They give a full dose at 6 months and another full dose at a year! OMG! Some small breed dogs only weigh 24 oz. This is wrong. It needs to stop. This is murder. My seven year old yorkie just died of a enlarged heart due to the rabies state mandated 3 year rabies vaccine. His life cut short,mine destroyed forever.

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Susan Lewelling

I agree with Dog Lover. One vaccine is one too many. This is such a tough decision. Knowing that ONE rabies vaccine can cause life long dis-ease or even death, and on the other hand that the law is that we MUST vaccinate for rabies, what to do, it is a huge risk either way. I am having a hard time vaccinating even once, I cannot get past that vaccines can kill, My grandson died at 8 months old, 12 hours after getting "routine" vaccines, so I KNOW that what is possible CAN happen.
Dr Will, your law is good for a start, but the only solution is insisting on safer vaccines. And what to do in the meantime? It is a hard decision that educated pet owners must make, with no perfect answer, sadly in the meantime our dogs are the ones that suffer if we choose to vaccinate even ONE time.

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Esther

Great Blog again! Thank you for taking the time to write such a good article about a subject that is worrisome to so many people. Nice ideas for a new law.
I certainly hope the RCF will come with a positive result for CMI for at least a number of years, hopefully a lifetime. Like Darci mentions there is this belief or idea that people and veterinarians, not only conventional but some holistic as well have that if a titer is low, you need to booster. It is like they have not heard of CMI.
Thanks again for caring.

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Darci

Great update in this worrisome area of the Rabies vaccine. I'm so excited and hopeful that the release of the Rabies Challenge Fund findings will spur on change. I think you, Dr. Will, are a great one to lead us on in this area and am so grateful you have taken this on. I will do my best to educate along my path. One thing that concerns me is the idea that many people and vets have and it is that a low titer means time to vaccinate. I realize that this is born out of a lack of education. Do you think that the cell memory test will become affordable and in the tool box down the road? Thanks Dr, Will!

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Dog Lovers

Great start, Doc and another awesome article. Every vaccinated animal our family has owned suffered vaccine damages and shorter lives. Two previous dogs were "water aggressive" for lack of a better description; both would attack the water coming from a garden hose. Our last vaccinated dog was 8 yrs ago; he's a little guy at only 7 lbs so we got our vet to give him a 1/3 dose of the Thimoserol-free rabies vax when he was 13 months old. We were wrongly informed and had him neutered a month before this. That's another thing we'll never do. He still had vax damage, including that he coughs after every drink. I've posted about him in one of your other rabies articles. He suffered the brain inflammation every vax causes and has never been the same since that jab.
Hubby and I decided we're never again vaxing any living creature. Since the incidence of rabies is so very low, making rabies vax mandatory is ridiculous. More people die in car and plane accidents but we still allow both worldwide. More deaths are caused by prescription meds, too. Rx meds are not only accepted, it's encouraged for us all to "see our doctor." NOPE; Dr. Whitecoat (human or animal) can't restore health and doesn't even have a clue about how to do this. Essentially, they're drug/chemical/toxin pushers. That can never give or restore health.
It's time for us to take responsibility and not allow another person or group to tell us what will be done to our bodies, our health, our lives, our animals. Since we KNOW no vaccine is safe, the only safe vax is the one not given. I believe all vaccines should be stopped unless they're proven to be 100% safe and effectual. Then people should be allowed to choose if they wish to vaccinate or not after being given all the facts. NO mandatory toxins/vaccines. It's just not right. Ok, stepping off my soap box now.

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