Comments on Finally: Why veterinarians have a high suicide rate - Vital Animal® § The Natural Path

compelling reading, thank you.

It seems that many people like myself can not offord a natural pathic doctor, to visit one in our area the office visit is 400.00 to start before anything is diagnosed or resolved. So Dr. What do you charge for your services to treat animals? Acupuncture? Could you list your services and their costs that would be helpful. Kind regards and thank you.

I believe the only safe vaccine is one that is NEVER used.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. I worked in the environmental field for years and burned out for a similar reason. I have nothing but empathy for vets in this situation. I just wish they'd stop taking their frustrations out on "non-compliant" patients like me.

Dr Falconer great article. I like how you give veterinarians options of where to go next. I have a couple thoughts:

Mainstream human medicine is also a disaster. While making dogs chronically ill can't make for much job satisfaction, it also doesn't answer the question of why veterinarians are hit with higher suicide than MD's. I was wondering if pay has to do with it (my understanding is vets acquire similar schooling bills but make a fraction in salary/pay). But also more importantly, I wonder about the rabies vaccine that is required for vets. Could this be contributing?

I have two questions for you:

1. I have a tween daughter who is interested in this field. She is 100% unvaccinated and I'd like her to stay that way. It's there any way she could become a veterinarian unvaccinated?

2. Do you have to go through regular veterinary school to end up being the veterinarian homoeopathic in the end, or can you skip to that part?

My sister was a DVM and is now an MD. She decided she wanted to be a "real" doctor and I heard her cite that she would never have to decide about putting a child down. She was the first to graduate both a DVM and MD from Texas A&M.

She helped created an ethics curriculum for the A&M vet school after she was in practice. Notably many in her MD class didn't understand why they needed an ethics class. Let that sink in.

I don't frequent any Dr WhiteCoats--for humans or dogs. I've spent many years educating myself with homeopathy and other natural methods to treat most problems that come up. I think of hospitals as Temples of Death. A friend was recently admitted due to a psychotic break she experienced at some New Age retreat in Denver. Of course, they tested her for Convid and probably ran the test at high threshold cycles and voila! She tested positive. They injected her with the clotshot and put her in the Convid isolation ward so that no family could visit for the entire 10 days she was held captive there. God only knows what else they gave her. This person was shot-free and they injected her with the poison for a mental issue. Unbelievable!

As for my dogs, I am dealing with very waxy ears on my 8 month old Goldendoodle pup and recently he had hurt his leg and was limping. I followed the advice of one amazing homeopathic vet, Dr Will Falconer, and Symphytum and Ligaplex got him back on his feet and running. I've given him 200C Silicea for the voluminous production of ear wax and eye boogers. Keeping my fingers crossed, the wax will wane. Haha!

All this to say, I will not go to a conventional vet. In my experience, they are as dangerous as conventional medical professionals. In a way, it's all good because we need to take our power back from the arrogant, brainwashed "gods" that are maiming and prematurely killing our beloved fur babies.

I have no more respect for conventional medicine, nor the people who practice it as professionals. I’ve become deeply embittered.
Species appropriate feeding is not difficult to learn about and the information is available! And it just. Makes. Sense.
Homeopathy isn’t so obviously logical, but once it’s cure has been experienced… WOW! And after a little digging, the logic is more than there. And the lack of harm should be screaming at vets/doctors. The vaccine insistence is ludicrous. And people get all bent out of shape if I mention not over-vaccinating. Not even “don’t vaccinate”, just don’t over vaccinate!
I hope more vets and doctors stumble across this well thought out and well written article and instead of killing themselves, reassess and retrain in a modality that is actually healing.

So glad that I found you and your "site." I have never believed in "vaccinations," but was afraid not to go along with the crowd. I recently lost my beloved chihuahua and knew I had to get a replacement to try to recover from my grief. I found an "orphanage" for dogs on the internet and saw a little chihuahua and called about her. I went to check her out. In the meantime, I heard a "dog communicator" tell us not to choose a dog, but let the dog choose us.

When I went into the house, they had several dogs. One jumped up into the lap of the caregiver, sat down, and immediately started "staring" at me, intently. Then, all of a sudden, she jumped down and headed straight across the room and jumped into my lap and snuggled up close to me. She had chosen me!! The sweetest little dog, so loving and intelligent. She was six years old, and the papers said she had been spayed. There was no birthdate, but I "counted backwards" from her rabies tag and gave her a birthday. I've never believed in vaccinations, so if she was six, going on seven, she surely must be immune by now. I will NOT be giving her another vaccination. She already has some sort of cough and I am assuming that must be due to all of those vaccinations. (I have not yet found a holistic vet.) Also, she had not been spayed, and when I called the adoption center, I was told that that sometimes happens--they take groups of dogs to the "hospital" for spaying and sometimes some of the dogs "escape." They told me they would arrange for me to have her spayed, but at now seven years old, I am afraid going under anesthesia would be harmful, so I will live with "diapers."

Thank you so very much for your information and encouragement to better care for our pets. They are God-given.

Interesting read. 100% accurate. Our goal should be to detoxify the gene pools we have damaged due to environmental factors and suppression.

Just wanted to insert another perspective for those considerate people who will listen. I am an animal lover from my earliest memories. I don't think I could live without my pets - large and small. But I also graduated from veterinary school and would like to share my insight and experience. I do not practice and in hindsight, it's probably vital that I did not I would have been a statistic and at least considered suicide. For those who don't know, this is what vet school is like. My class stayed together (like it was in kindergarten) for the four years of school. We met in the same classroom day in and day out 8 to 5. I think it is fair to say most of my classmates were nice people. The majority were female and many of those were compassionate, tender hearted. I don't think anyone I knew expected vet school would make them get rich quick. Most were over achievers and wanted to be in a helping profession. I graduated and at least thought I knew a little something. But I chose to stay at home and raise adopted children. Yeah, so I'm a Molly Mercy personality. In the course of taking care of my family and beloved pets, I stumbled on information gradually over years that conflicted with the conventional medical knowledge I had learned. I recently listened to a doctor in an association with other doctors trying to get out true information to people about vaccination to help them make informed decisions about vaccine and they discussed how hard it is for people to accept that they have been lied to and deceived. It took me years to come to the conclusion that at least some of my education was basically untrue. To this day, I still have to get continuing education hours to renew my license and it has to be RACE approved to be accepted. Guess who sponsors that approved CE? Pharmaceutical companies. Guess where vets in practice get information during their busy practicing? Pharmaceutical reps who drop by to get their orders for supplies. I understand people's anger. I have been in a university convention and listened to a speaker mock "alternative" therapies and I simmered in anger. It seemed so narrow minded and the whole auditorium mildly chuckled along. I have also listened to a speaker during a convention rant in his lecture that he could not in good conscience alter his vaccination schedule because he cared for the best interest of his patients. This followed a university change in policy for their vaccination schedule due to some side affects they were seeing. I have also in retrospect recalled things I was taught in school that clearly are blatantly untrue and remembered the smug expressions as professors struck down silly myths people believe and how we (vets) must correct these misunderstandings. And now I am finding some of these "old wives' tales" are in fact true.

What I hope to impart is a little compassion for people(vets) who are stuck in a mindset that has been drilled into them, reinforced by veterinary boards who place requirements on them which are very biased against holistic and alternative medicine, and are probably in great pain themselves trying to survive in a consuming profession and still have a family life for whom they want to provide just like you do yours. I, too, have had three pets die of cancer probably because I did what I was told was "right." I feel disillusioned about conventional medicine and the time it has stolen from my life and the lives of my pets. And it's frustrating to feel like I have to start over to figure out what is right after playing by the "rules" for so long. So I can see both sides. I heard a medical doctor who had turned to functional medicine say that the way we practice medicine absolutely must change. But those things happen slowly. And those who are first to change will get a lot of retaliation from the status quo as has happened often over the course of history.

I had not given this topic much thought until recently. My town has no emergency animal clinic and we formed a group that we hope will enable us to have one in the future. We have been researching other towns and cities and learning how other cities of comparable size support and finance this type of facility.
This is how we learned about the significant shortage of new veterinarians. The vets in our area are overworked and stretched thin because we have had many vets retire and/or leave the area. In addition, this is a very poor area with close to 40% of the residents on some type of financial assistance.
Then it happened.
One of our veterinarians did commit suicide.
This was several months ago and it is still a shock and a huge loss to our community in every way.
I never personally met this vet but I was told she was a very caring and dedicated-to-her-profession type of person.
In addition, the veterinarians here, with the exception of one, practice conventional medicine. I have been utilizing an out-of-state homeopathic vet for over 3 years now. Had I not made this move I am pretty certain I would have lost my dog as he only became worse with conventional treatment. I certainly became much poorer.
He is doing very, very well these days, thanks to our homeopathic vet and to the information Dr. Falcolner shares on the internet.
It seems like both human and animal medicine need some major type of reset button to toss out what doesn't work and bring in and teach what does work.
So much of modern medicine is a money grab...only trying to do no harm to their bank accounts.

Several years ago, I was referred to a holistic vet. I wasn't able to reach her, and found out a few days later that after a farm call, she pulled off the road and injected herself in the abdomen with a euthanasia drug. It was shocking to me, and only now, after reading your article, do I understand.

I've used homeopathy and herbs for my animals for over thirty years, and I am amazed at vets who don't want to hear about the alternatives. How sad for them, and how sad for us, and how immensely sad for our animals.

Dr Falconers article immediately caught my attention. The pet industry is so enormous there's no surprise unscrupulous practices become common place.
Just like the human health industry. I do believe most vets chose animal care because they love them. The profession is not highly paid and very stressful as the article mentions. How tragic that the reasons why vets devoted their careers to their profession ie. to cure and bring comfort to ailing pets is having the opposite effect . What is it going to take for vets as well as human doctors to broaden their knowledge base enough to take seriously "preventative" care whenever possible. I'm questioning now if feeding my sweet 14 year old cat a prescription diet for a kidney condition is the right treatment or if it's a fast track to her demise. Thanks Dr Falconer for giving us hope and good information to consider.

When my Belle underwent ACL surgery, at a cost of $5,000, including physical therapy, I wish my vet had told me about the inevitability of her developing osteosarcoma at the site of the surgery. Would have done a brace instead.

Just huge gratitude and respect to you, that's all ????????

Thank you so much for this article! As a teen I was blessed to work with and be trained as a tech by two local veterinarians who actually worked hard on finding cures for the animals that came into the hospital. I can remember the day back in the mid-80’s when myself and the rest of the staff was told we would be getting our first delivery of a new “prescription” dog food. Ugh! You know how the story goes. I truly believe that was the beginning of the end for curative animal care. Now, fifteen years into my mobile grooming business, I see horrible teeth, dogs that are seriously overweight with yeasty skin and feet, and loaded with warts. (Thank you, chemical laden dog food!) I think you hit the nail on the head. Our world has moved to the ‘quick fix’ mentality and as a result has cost so many veterinarians their very lives. Thank you for sounding the alarm and introducing homeopathy by writing articles. As a result, I’m now in my seventh month of three year homeopathic program and I am having so much fun learning! The exact science of homeopathy and what Hahnnamnn discovered is fascinating! I only wish Dr. Pitcairn would open up his training to homeopaths and former vet techs like myself who want to continue working with animals. At least his repertory is accessible in software like RadarOpus. Yaayyy! Thanks again for your point of view!

Thank you, Dr Falconer. I've been a pet professional generalist for 50 years: trainer, groomer, behavior consultant and natural feeding coach. As a small child I knew I wanted to be a vet. That became impossible after an accidental exposure to vivisection in a medical school's laboratory at age 10. I didn't and still don't believe that torturing some animals for the benefit of other animals and "science" can be justified. But I have a sort-of scientific mind and have been an observer and helper all my life. For 20 years I have owned a pet care facility with day care, training, grooming, diy grooming, and classes teaching home made pet food making. I refer clients to vets like you, Karen Becker, Peter Dobias, Christina Chambray, and others. I send them to Dr Dodds' Nutriscan test and then help them develop a diet for their animals. And while this is somewhat of a digression, here's my main point:
Our local community college has a vet tech program, and students have been told that the generation of vets practicing today contains the last independent veterinarians. The trend toward corporate-owned practices is overwhelming the profession, and in the process, seldom remarked upon, the meaning of "profession" has been subsumed by the category of "industry." Industrial values are efficiency and profitability. Advertising and marketing effectiveness is far more important than truthfulness. Humility is considered a betrayal. Internal critics are to be destroyed.
I think everyone has some sort of internal compass needle oriented toward integrity, and eventually cognitive and moral dissonance afflict those who try to ignore it. Sadly, our whole economic system is designed to suppress it by rewarding industrialists and punishing professionals.
While I have never regretted my personal decision not to become a vet, I am especially appreciative of veterinarians like you who uphold the values of the profession. I wonder if it is time for those brave stalwarts to take aim at the system more explicitly and directly? It would certainly require courage and entail sacrifice, but I am beginning to see (or I might be imagining it) in our society's many levels of brokenness, some willingness to see, to reject and to change what's rotten in the foundation. I'd love to know what you think about this.

Once again you’ve hit the nail on the head….GREAT article, but how incredibly sad and very disturbing. My wish is for the world to read this and wake up.
You were the one to give me the courage to feed raw and halt vaccines and preventatives. I studied Homeopathy with you and have saved my animals more than once. (To the dismay of the Vets) I avoided a knee and hip replacement with Homeopathy and use it often to treat my family.
We desperately need good Vets!!! It is difficult to be nice when I am ridiculed for feeding raw and not using preventatives and vaccines.
I have a rescue pup who was given all vaccines and preventatives at 8 wks. He was full of worms as well. It obliterated his immune system and he quickly was over run with yeast. Do no harm ??
THANK YOU for all the work you do, and as you say, together we have a chance to make change happen.
Marcia

Wow. Very interesting. I never looked at it from that view. We have just found out our 10 yr old maltipoo has cushings. Come to find out all the symptoms I have been telling her vet for almost two years were of cushings. Took her having a seizure out of state and a different vet to found this out. To top it off her vet even does acupuncture and never even suggested using that when we had a hurt leg. Just meds. Thanks Dr Will for all ur knowledge and for sharing it.